newt gingrich and rick santorum, and i certainly don't agree with either of them on anything, on everything, but the way they challenged the basic false premises of these very far from neutral observers was very admirable, something that appeals not just to the base of the republican party and conservatives, but i think especially to those independents. i mean, the first debate will be here in colorado. this is a huge battleground state. particularly when it comes to these women issues, the democrat party has vastly overreached in this whole idea that women simply think with their chromosomes and internal organs. the way that the democrats have presented themselves as champions of women, when of course they have this destructive economic record, and the caricature of the sandra fluke typos, radical pinkos, dancing around in costumes dressed up as reproductive organs. this is not what mainstream females are about. we need to have the romney campaign representing that. >> sean: michelle, good to see you as always. and coming up -- >> i said even at the time, this is going to be a rocky path.